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[Indiana Jones]

МИНОЕЦ №2

 

 

Kit Number: Z746199
Name: Minoan_Lasithi I0074
78,125 SNPs used in this evaluation

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

 

1 Caucasian 43.26

 

2 European_Early_Farmers 37.79

 

3 Near_East 12.30

 

4 North_African 4.43

 

5 East_Siberian 1.16

 

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 17.351366
2 Sicilian_Center_ @ 17.877916
3 Greek_Islands_ @ 17.902760
4 French_Jew_ @ 17.940228
5 Italian_Jew_ @ 18.203775
6 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 18.844439
7 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 18.999039
8 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 19.158545
9 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 19.247122
10 Sicilian_East_ @ 19.277708
11 Turk_Jew_ @ 19.322577
12 Maltese_ @ 19.383436
13 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 19.512175
14 Italian_South_ @ 20.621506
15 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 20.666872
16 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 21.091614
17 Sicilian_West_ @ 21.307346
18 Romanian_Jew_ @ 21.309814
19 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 21.704769
20 Ashkenazi_ @ 21.771601

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_ +50% Sardinian_ @ 9.303174


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze_ +25% Sardinian_ +25% Sardinian_ @ 9.303174


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Georgian_Laz_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 7.778871
2 Druze_ + Georgian_Laz_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 8.052137
3 Georgian_Laz_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 8.290287
4 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ + Turk_Trabzon_ @ 8.439495
5 Druze_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ + Turk_Trabzon_ @ 8.443672
6 Georgian_Laz_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 8.858786
7 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 8.859764
8 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Georgian_Imereti_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 8.962772
9 Lebanese_Christian_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ + Turk_Trabzon_ @ 8.988653
10 Cypriot_ + Georgian_Laz_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.162450
11 Druze_ + Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.254115
12 Adjara_ + Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.301581
13 Druze_ + Druze_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.303174
14 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Georgian_Megrelia_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.315550
15 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Greek_Islands_ + Greek_Islands_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.316130
16 Druze_ + Georgian_Imereti_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.347720
17 Georgian_Laz_ + Samaritian_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.370339
18 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ + Georgian_Svan_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.373236
19 Lebanese_Druze_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ + Turk_Trabzon_ @ 9.419596
20 Georgian_Tbilisi_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Sardinian_ + Sardinian_ @ 9.432889

[Indiana Jones]

М А В Р Ы

 

* Мавританская Испания не совсем относится к античным цивилизациям, зато является их культурным преемником...

 

 

[Indiana Jones]

Бронзовый век Далмации

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Железный век Далмации в сравнении с современным Бергамо ( итальянская Ломбардия )

 

[Indiana Jones]

БРОНЗОВЫЙ ВЕК ФРАКИИ

 

( вероятно, результаты знатного воина...)...

 

 

 

 

 

Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.52
2 Eastern_Euro 19.23
3 Baltic 13.65
4 Atlantic 13.45
5 West_Asian 12.95
6 South_Asian 3.15
7 Amerindian 2.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 13.52
2 Swedish 15.34
3 Finnish 15.54
4 Southwest_Finnish 15.82
5 Norwegian 15.93
6 East_German 17.21
7 North_German 17.24
8 West_Norwegian 17.25
9 Danish 17.71
10 Hungarian 17.94
11 East_Finnish 18.02
12 North_Dutch 18.06
13 West_German 18.34
14 South_Polish 19.7
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.72
16 Ukrainian 19.84
17 Estonian 20.15
18 Orcadian 20.35
19 West_Scottish 20.42
20 South_Dutch 20.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% North_Swedish + 24.5% Tabassaran @ 7.58
2 77.6% North_Swedish + 22.4% Lezgin @ 8.3
3 79% North_Swedish + 21% Chechen @ 8.67
4 73.4% Swedish + 26.6% Tabassaran @ 9.11
5 81.6% North_Swedish + 18.4% Adygei @ 9.45
6 82.1% North_Swedish + 17.9% Ossetian @ 9.52
7 72.7% Norwegian + 27.3% Tabassaran @ 9.53
8 80.9% North_Swedish + 19.1% Kabardin @ 9.57
9 80.3% North_Swedish + 19.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 9.58
10 82.5% North_Swedish + 17.5% Kalash @ 9.59
11 80.1% North_Swedish + 19.9% Kumyk @ 9.61
12 82.3% North_Swedish + 17.7% North_Ossetian @ 9.62
13 84.8% North_Swedish + 15.2% Abhkasian @ 9.66
14 81.6% North_Swedish + 18.4% Balkar @ 9.72
15 75.6% Swedish + 24.4% Lezgin @ 9.77
16 84.2% North_Swedish + 15.8% Georgian @ 9.81
17 70.5% West_Norwegian + 29.5% Tabassaran @ 9.87
18 83.5% North_Swedish + 16.5% Balochi @ 10.04
19 74.8% Norwegian + 25.2% Lezgin @ 10.11
20 84% North_Swedish + 16% Brahui @ 10.13

 

 

 

 

 

puntDNAL K12:

puntDNAL K12 Ancient Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 45.79
2 Caucasus_HG 27.88
3 Anatolian_NF 19.89
4 Beringian 3.41
5 Amerindian 1.41
6 South_Asian 1.31

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Srubnaya_I0232 @ 3.134314
2 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 3.797682
3 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 3.900799
4 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 @ 4.797025
5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 @ 5.052248
6 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 @ 5.825454
7 Srubnaya_I0430 @ 7.175141
8 Potapovka_I0419 @ 7.469271
9 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 @ 8.079706
10 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 11.250714
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 12.764265
12 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 13.424397
13 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 13.650426
14 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 14.740792
15 Unetice_EBA_I0117 @ 14.801845
16 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 @ 14.956509
17 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 @ 15.883912
18 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 16.527464
19 Scythian_IA_I0247 @ 16.988422
20 Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 19.113752

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Andronovo_SG_RISE505 +50% Srubnaya_I0232 @ 2.810591

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Andronovo_SG_RISE505 +25% Srubnaya_I0232 +25% Srubnaya_I0232 @ 2.810591

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 + Srubnaya_I0232 + Srubnaya_I0232 + Srubnaya_I0232 @ 2.597268
(...)

His results in MDLP K11:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 40.86
2 EHG 31.94
3 Neolithic 14.98
4 Iran-Mesolithic 7.98
5 Amerindian 2.13

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Srubnaya_LBA @ 4.859118
2 Sintashta_MBA @ 4.960232
3 Andronovo_Eneolithic @ 7.546394
4 Corded_Ware_Germany @ 7.561746
5 Corded_Ware_Germany @ 8.130066
6 Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 8.672397
7 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 9.067833
8 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 10.487313
9 Potapovka_BA @ 10.598248
10 Srubnaya_LBA_outlier @ 10.608652
11 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 11.877763
12 Irish_BA @ 12.260816
13 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 12.415079
14 Nordic_BA @ 12.691585
15 Karsdorf_LN @ 13.087960
16 Nordic_LN @ 13.605470
17 Nordic_IA @ 13.647160
18 Unetice_MBA @ 13.749290
19 Unetice_EBA @ 14.416342
20 Nordic_LBA @ 14.966543

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nordic_BattleAxe +50% Potapovka_BA @ 1.818545

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Afanasievo_Eneolithic +25% Hungary_BA +25% Sintashta_MBA @ 1.350623

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hungary_BA + Sintashta_MBA + Yamnaya_Kalmykia_LBA + Yamnaya_Kalmykia_LBA @ 1.237987

 

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[Indiana Jones]

Anatolian Neolithic Farmer 

 

[ мой комментарий ]

 

Эти земледельцы из Барчина стали предтечей неолитизации Юго-Восточной Европы.

В соответствии, с калькулятором K7 , их генофонд = 2/3 неолитический Левант + 1/3 неизвестные западноевразийские охотники...

Интересно, что "барчинцы" очень далеки от всех современных популяций. 

Сардинцы и южные итальянцы = их ближайшие "родственники", но дистанции, все равно, огромны.

В сравнении с современными людьми Ближнего Востока, у барчинцев полностью отсутствует ANE и ASE составляющая.

А по сравнению с северными африканцами и южными европейцами, вроде тех же сардинцев, у них довольно мало WHG/UHG ( и, все равно, больше, чем у йеменитов/бедуинов...)...

* прямыми потомками ANF были Early Neolithic Iberians и производная от них культура Виндмилл Хилл в Юго-Западной Англии. 

* в качестве примерной иллюстрации их облика подойдет " Kalpeia " из Южной Испании (7500 лет назад) и более поздняя " Whitehawk woman " 

 

Итак ,

 

 

 

 

Kit M897077

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1WEST_MED 46.98
2EAST_MED 32.62
3MIDDLE_EASTERN 10.57
4ATLANTIC 9.59
5NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 0.21
6EAST_AFRICAN 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Sardinian19.83
2South_Italian_&_Sicilian30.51
3Tuscan31.43
4GR31.65
5North_Italian33.52
6Moroccan33.96
7AJ34.13
8PT36.5
9ES36.7
10Algerian38.39
11Samaritan39.07
12Mozabite_Berber40.98
13RO41.39
14FR43.19
15Druze43.37
16Serbian44.14
17TR44.62
18French_Basque45.13
19Armenian45.38
20Assyrian45.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 68.8%Sardinian+31.2%Samaritan@9.92
2 71.2%Sardinian+28.8%Druze@10.05
3 75.2%Sardinian+24.8%Mandean@12.97
4 74.5%Sardinian+25.5%IQ@13.03
5 74.8%Sardinian+25.2%Assyrian@13.35
6 80.3%Sardinian+19.7%Bedouin@13.9
7 67.3%Sardinian+32.7%GR@14.35
8 76.2%Sardinian+23.8%Armenian@14.57
9 66.8%Sardinian+33.2%South_Italian_&_Sicilian@14.72
10 78.8%Sardinian+21.2%Kurdish@15
11 70.5%Sardinian+29.5%AJ@15.16
12 79.7%Sardinian+20.3%IR@15.35
13 77%Sardinian+23%TR@15.38
14 75.9%Sardinian+24.1%Algerian@16.51
15 85.3%Sardinian+14.7%GE@17.28
16 75.9%Sardinian+24.1%Moroccan@17.54
17 73.9%Sardinian+26.1%Tuscan@17.55
18 87.2%Sardinian+12.8%Brahui@17.73
19 87.5%Sardinian+12.5%Balochi@17.83
20 82%Sardinian+18%Mozabite_Berber@18.12

 

Eurogenes_ANE K7 Admixture Proportions

 

Population

ANE-
ASE-
WHG-UHG 36.44%
East_Eurasian-
West_African-
East_African-
ENF  63.53%

 

[Indiana Jones]

Как раз, иберийские потомки анатолийских земледельцев...

 

 

Пещера Эльс Трокс ( Арагон, 7300 лет назад )

 

 

Els Trocs [Troc3] M684242:

ANE: -
ASE: -
WHG-UHG: 54,48
East-Eurasian: -
West-African: -
East-African: -
ENF: 45,52

[Indiana Jones]

Италия Железного века

 

* обратите внимание на результаты Proto-Villanovan и Etruscan

У представителей прото-Виллановы почти 1/3 происхождения = Анатолия Бронзового века ( "сдвинутая" в сторону неолитического Ирана...)...

Тут любопытна линия родства и преемственности :

 

протоВилланова -- этруски -- римские латины 

 

 

[Indiana Jones]

Культура Курганных погребений, Германия, примерно 3500 лет назад

 

* Tumulus culture 

 

Результат RISE 471

 

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.22
2 West_Med 26.88
3 Baltic 19.02
4 East_Med 8.58
5 Sub-Saharan 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

 

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_French 6.74
2 Spanish_Cantabria 8.31
3 Spanish_Cataluna 8.66
4 French 8.96
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.8
6 Spanish_Galicia 10.25
7 Spanish_Valencia 10.37
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.69
9 Spanish_Aragon 10.74
10 Portuguese 11.04
11 Spanish_Murcia 11.63
12 South_Dutch 11.88
13 Spanish_Extremadura 12.34
14 Spanish_Andalucia 12.8
15 West_German 13.02
16 Southeast_English 14.03
17 Southwest_English 14.15
18 French_Basque 16.15
19 Orcadian 16.25
20 West_Scottish 17.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.2% Southwest_French + 21.8% Swedish @ 3.54
2 77.4% Southwest_French + 22.6% Norwegian @ 3.6
3 81.1% Southwest_French + 18.9% North_Swedish @ 3.64
4 70.5% Southwest_French + 29.5% Southeast_English @ 3.66
5 75.9% Southwest_French + 24.1% Danish @ 3.72
6 75.7% Southwest_French + 24.3% North_Dutch @ 3.75
7 74% Southwest_French + 26% Orcadian @ 3.83
8 76.7% Southwest_French + 23.3% North_German @ 4
9 71.5% Southwest_French + 28.5% Southwest_English @ 4.02
10 84.6% Southwest_French + 15.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.04
11 75.7% Southwest_French + 24.3% West_Scottish @ 4.11
12 75.9% Southwest_French + 24.1% Irish @ 4.12
13 87.5% Southwest_French + 12.5% La_Brana-1 @ 4.32
14 57.4% French_Basque + 42.6% Hungarian @ 4.36
15 87.4% Southwest_French + 12.6% Estonian @ 4.38
16 87.3% Southwest_French + 12.7% Finnish @ 4.4
17 68.4% Southwest_French + 31.6% South_Dutch @ 4.42
18 64.5% French_Basque + 35.5% South_Polish @ 4.48
19 53.6% French_Basque + 46.4% East_German @ 4.55
20 69.3% French_Basque + 30.7% Belorussian @ 4.56
 

[Indiana Jones]

Гальштаттский кельт ,

 

территория Чехии, примерно 2700-2850 лет назад

 

DA 111

 

 

 

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.62
2 West_Med 23.15
3 Baltic 18.97
4 East_Med 7.5
5 West_Asian 1.09
6 Red_Sea 0.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 7.88
2 South_Dutch 9.25
3 Southwest_English 9.91
4 Southwest_French 10.01
5 Southeast_English 10.04
6 Spanish_Cataluna 10.5
7 West_German 10.81
8 Spanish_Cantabria 10.95
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.64
10 Orcadian 12.29
11 Spanish_Galicia 12.42
12 Spanish_Aragon 12.72
13 Spanish_Valencia 12.79
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.85
15 West_Scottish 12.96
16 Portuguese 12.99
17 Irish 13.19
18 Spanish_Murcia 13.45
19 North_Dutch 14.06
20 Spanish_Extremadura 14.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Southwest_French + 49.9% Southeast_English @ 2.89
2 50.3% Southwest_English + 49.7% Southwest_French @ 3.02
3 57% Southwest_French + 43% West_Scottish @ 3.21
4 55.6% Southwest_French + 44.4% Orcadian @ 3.23
5 62.7% Southwest_French + 37.3% Norwegian @ 3.48
6 59.2% Southwest_French + 40.8% North_Dutch @ 3.49
7 57.6% Southwest_French + 42.4% Irish @ 3.5
8 60% Southwest_French + 40% Danish @ 3.59
9 56.4% Spanish_Aragon + 43.6% Norwegian @ 3.61
10 52.5% Southeast_English + 47.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.65
11 52.9% Southwest_English + 47.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.66
12 56.6% Southeast_English + 43.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.71
13 81.1% Southwest_English + 18.9% Sardinian @ 3.71
14 50.9% Orcadian + 49.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.81
15 53.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 46.8% Orcadian @ 3.83
16 57% Southwest_English + 43% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.84
17 58.9% Spanish_Aragon + 41.1% Swedish @ 3.89
18 66.4% South_Dutch + 33.6% French_Basque @ 3.89
19 54.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 45.3% West_Scottish @ 3.94
20 52.7% Spanish_Aragon + 47.3% North_Dutch @ 3.97

Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 37.08
2 North_Sea 27.24
3 West_Med 16.44
4 Baltic 11.16
5 East_Med 2.73
6 Eastern_Euro 2.57
7 West_Asian 1.89
8 Red_Sea 0.88

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_French 11.3
2 French 11.31
3 Spanish_Cataluna 11.42
4 South_Dutch 11.86
5 Spanish_Cantabria 11.9
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.94
7 Southwest_English 11.97
8 Spanish_Aragon 12.71
9 Southeast_English 12.8
10 Spanish_Valencia 13.32
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.35
12 Spanish_Murcia 13.77
13 Irish 13.78
14 Portuguese 14.2
15 Spanish_Galicia 14.32
16 Spanish_Extremadura 14.52
17 West_Scottish 14.7
18 French_Basque 14.88
19 North_German 15.22
20 Spanish_Andalucia 15.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.3% French_Basque + 47.7% North_Dutch @ 3.81
2 58.7% French_Basque + 41.3% Swedish @ 3.89
3 52.1% Irish + 47.9% French_Basque @ 3.93
4 54.2% Southeast_English + 45.8% French_Basque @ 4.27
5 58.7% French_Basque + 41.3% West_Norwegian @ 4.34
6 56.1% Southwest_English + 43.9% French_Basque @ 4.37
7 50.3% West_Scottish + 49.7% French_Basque @ 4.39
8 57.8% French_Basque + 42.2% Norwegian @ 4.44
9 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% North_German @ 4.44
10 52.5% French_Basque + 47.5% Danish @ 4.54
11 52.2% French_Basque + 47.8% Orcadian @ 4.83
12 56.8% South_Dutch + 43.2% French_Basque @ 5.5
13 61.7% French_Basque + 38.3% North_Swedish @ 5.59
14 56.2% Southwest_French + 43.8% Irish @ 5.6
15 52.6% French_Basque + 47.4% West_German @ 5.64
16 52.5% Spanish_Aragon + 47.5% Irish @ 5.74
17 58.2% Southwest_French + 41.8% West_Scottish @ 5.83
18 54.5% Spanish_Aragon + 45.5% West_Scottish @ 6.05
19 61.1% Southwest_French + 38.9% Orcadian @ 6.14
20 54.2% Southwest_French + 45.8% Southeast_English @ 6.14

[Indiana Jones]

Гальштаттский кельт ,

 

территория Чехии, примерно 2700-2850 лет назад

 

DA 112

 

 

 

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_German @ 8.760249
2 Hungarian @ 11.566052
3 West_German @ 13.748892
4 South_Dutch @ 13.854079
5 Southwest_Finnish @ 14.086937
6 Austrian @ 14.254449
7 North_German @ 14.483090
8 Swedish @ 14.674507
9 North_Swedish @ 14.847353
10 Norwegian @ 15.530862
11 Croatian @ 15.762395
12 North_Dutch @ 15.832097
13 Southwest_English @ 16.025703
14 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.117706
15 South_Polish @ 16.141638
16 Finnish @ 16.163355
17 French @ 16.240932
18 Danish @ 16.392187
19 Ukrainian @ 16.434118
20 Southeast_English @ 16.954832

 

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Southwest_English +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.624954

MDLP K23b for Hallstatt DA112:

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Belgian ( ) 5.15

MDLP K16 for Hallstatt DA112:

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 4.41

 

 

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.92
2 Baltic 32.48
3 West_Med 18.46
4 East_Med 6.51
5 Amerindian 1.96
6 Oceanian 1.17

Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_German @ 7.839272
2 Austrian @ 9.298747
3 Hungarian @ 12.197077
4 West_German @ 13.646287
5 South_Dutch @ 13.746942
6 North_Swedish @ 14.801031
7 North_German @ 14.877313
8 Swedish @ 15.344375
9 Croatian @ 15.525110
10 South_Polish @ 16.193487
11 Southeast_English @ 16.253077
12 Danish @ 16.421234
13 North_Dutch @ 16.518303
14 French @ 17.040289
15 Norwegian @ 17.140598
16 Orcadian @ 17.209940
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 17.609632
18 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 17.953915
19 Ukrainian @ 18.191841
20 Southwest_English @ 18.251289

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +50% Southwest_French @ 3.947282

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Southwest_French +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.883397

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.883397
2 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.942910
3 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 3.947282
4 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.962281
5 Estonian + Lithuanian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.989081
6 Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 4.025970
7 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.029839
8 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.063773
9 Estonian + French_Basque + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.109277
10 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.124732
11 Belorussian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 4.154979
12 Estonian + Estonian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.162164
13 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.192524
14 Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.212219
15 Estonian + Estonian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.217822
16 Estonian + French_Basque + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.225721
17 Estonian + Estonian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.226249
18 Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.228735
19 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.241217
20 Estonian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.249210

 

 

 

 MDLP K16 Modern:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 30.63
2 NorthEastEuropean 29.77
3 Steppe 24.25
4 Caucasian 12.48
5 SouthEastAsian 2.02
6 EastAfrican 0.71
7 Subsaharian 0.09
8 Amerindian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 4.41
2 Icelandic (Iceland) 4.5
3 Norwegian (Norwegia) 4.61
4 English (Kent) 5.05
5 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 5.39
6 English (Cornwall) 5.39
7 Irish (Ulster) 5.92
8 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 6.14
9 Irish (Connacht) 6.15
10 Scottish (Highlands) 6.57
11 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 6.71
12 Irish (Leinster) 6.92
13 French (WestFrance) 6.97
14 Swede (Sweden) 6.98
15 Scottish (Borders) 6.99
16 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 7.15
17 Irish (Munster) 7.23
18 Scottish (Grampian) 7.29
19 English (England) 7.32
20 Scottish (Fife) 7.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.6% Lithuanian (Lithuania) + 35.4% Basque (France) @ 2.53
2 84.8% Icelandic (Iceland) + 15.2% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.67
3 88.2% Icelandic (Iceland) + 11.8% Basque (Spain) @ 2.72
4 84.7% Icelandic (Iceland) + 15.3% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.72
5 84.6% Norwegian (Norwegia) + 15.4% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.78
6 87.8% Norwegian (Norwegia) + 12.2% Basque (France) @ 2.8
7 88.2% Icelandic (Iceland) + 11.8% Basque (France) @ 2.8
8 84.5% Norwegian (Norwegia) + 15.5% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.86
9 60.3% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 39.7% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.89
10 62.8% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 37.2% Basque (France) @ 3.08
11 83.4% Icelandic (Iceland) + 16.6% Spanish (Cantabria) @ 3.14
12 59.1% Estonian (Estonia) + 40.9% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.16
13 60.9% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 39.1% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 3.17
14 91.8% Icelandic (Iceland) + 8.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 3.17
15 83.9% Icelandic (Iceland) + 16.1% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.22
16 58.5% Lithuanian (Lithuania) + 41.5% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 3.23
17 58% Lithuanian (Lithuania) + 42% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.26
18 67.7% Belarusian (Belarus) + 32.3% Basque (France) @ 3.26
19 54.5% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 45.5% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.27
20 65.8% Estonian (Estonia) + 34.2% Basque (France) @ 3.27

 

 

[Indiana Jones]

Северная Италия, эпоха распада Римской империи

 

 

grave 3c

 

 

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 24.28
2 West_Med 23.43
3 East_Med 17.85
4 North_Sea 16.03
5 West_Asian 7.09
6 Eastern_Euro 5.86
7 Baltic 3.27
8 Sub-Saharan 2.18

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 6.569232
2 Tuscan @ 9.826101
3 Spanish_Andalucia @ 11.349411
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 11.638035
5 Spanish_Murcia @ 11.744783

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Cantabria +50% West_Sicilian @ 6.279172

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% West_Sicilian @ 6.121916

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Sardinian @ 5.162794

 

 

[Indiana Jones]

Карфагеняне ( пунийские колонисты на Сардинии...)...

 

 

 

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011
Distance: 2.8692% / 0.02869166
56.4    Berber_Tunisia_Chen
30.4    Sardinian
9.6    Yemenite_Mahra
1.8    Spanish_La_Rioja
0.8    Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.6    Nganassan
0.4    Biaka

 

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
Distance: 3.3822% / 0.03382161
42.0    Sardinian
28.0    Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
19.6    Berber_MAR_TIZ
2.8    Berber_Tunisia_Chen
2.4    Yemenite_Mahra
2.0    Eritrean
1.6    Yemenite_Dhamar
1.0    BedouinB
0.6    Biaka

 

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
Distance: 2.4965% / 0.02496547
49.6    Sardinian
20.4    Mozabite
15.4    Samaritan
6.2    Italian_Lombardy
5.2    Yemenite_Dhamar
1.6    Mari
1.0    Spanish_Asturias
0.4    Koinanbe
0.2    Fulani

 

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
Distance: 2.9421% / 0.02942099
40.2    Sardinian
19.0    Berber_Tunisia_Chen
14.4    Berber_MAR_TIZ
10.8    Spanish_La_Rioja
10.0    BedouinB
5.6    Sorb_Niederlausitz

 

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
Distance: 3.0201% / 0.03020056
99.8    Sardinian
0.2    Ju_hoan_North

 

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
Distance: 2.9792% / 0.02979169
35.8    Sardinian
27.4    Samaritan
21.0    Spanish_Pais_Vasco
15.6    Italian_Lombardy
0.2    Mari

 

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
Distance: 2.5074% / 0.02507399
40.6    Samaritan
37.0    Sardinian
11.4    Spanish_Pais_Vasco
6.4    Italian_Lombardy
2.6    Italian_Liguria
1.4    Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.6    Spanish_Asturias

[Indiana Jones]

Шикарная карта . . .

 

 

 

[Indiana Jones]

ДРЕВНИЙ ХЕТТ из современного Кыршехира ( ~ 3750 лет назад...)...

 

 

Kit Number: Z020190

 

PuntDNAL K12

 

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 47.26
2 Caucasus_HG 34.77
3 Near_East 14.50
4 European_HG 3.12


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cypriot @ 6.935007
2 Druze @ 10.994926
3 Turkish_Jew @ 14.822724
4 Sicilian_East @ 15.314612
5 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 15.611962
6 Moroccan_Jew @ 15.721437
7 Assyrian @ 16.169197
8 Turkish_Kayseri @ 16.760128
9 Tunisian_Jew @ 16.816135
10 Iranian_Jew @ 16.839214
11 Armenian @ 17.485435
12 Iraqi_Jew @ 18.015112
13 Libyan_Jew @ 18.145651
14 Lebanese @ 18.156378
15 Sicilian_West @ 18.457388
16 Syrian @ 19.995495
17 Laz @ 20.040901
18 Palestinian @ 20.930710
19 Turkish_Trabzon @ 20.976038
20 Georgian_Jew @ 21.219385

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% Cypriot @ 6.935007


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Druze +25% Sardinian +25% Turkish_Trabzon @ 5.844772

 

 

Eurogenes K13

 

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.41
2 West_Med 26.84
3 West_Asian 22.52
4 Red_Sea 4.61
5 North_Atlantic 3.61


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cyprian @ 8.972751
2 Lebanese_Christian @ 15.004678
3 Lebanese_Muslim @ 15.063251
4 Samaritan @ 15.162564
5 Tunisian_Jewish @ 17.403482
6 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.440098
7 Syrian @ 17.687239
8 Libyan_Jewish @ 18.073921
9 Lebanese_Druze @ 18.260983
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 18.392298
11 Italian_Jewish @ 18.535755
12 Assyrian @ 19.442945
13 South_Italian @ 19.825220
14 Kurdish_Jewish @ 19.852375
15 Jordanian @ 20.816086
16 Iranian_Jewish @ 21.012079
17 Palestinian @ 21.370081
18 East_Sicilian @ 22.692663
19 Georgian_Jewish @ 22.722448
20 Ashkenazi @ 22.969913

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Cyprian @ 8.972751


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Sardinian @ 8.520500

 

 

 

MDLP K23b

 

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 48.92
2 European_Early_Farmers 25.13
3 Near_East 13.54
4 South_Central_Asian 5.42
5 North_African 5.11
6 African_Pygmy 1.23


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Islands_ @ 8.805417
2 Cypriot_ @ 9.266016
3 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 11.211859
4 Italian_Jew_ @ 13.447717
5 French_Jew_ @ 14.134159
6 Turk_Jew_ @ 14.209823
7 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 14.274565
8 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ @ 14.341336
9 Sicilian_Center_ @ 14.360955
10 Cretan_ @ 14.496547
11 Italian_South_ @ 14.845836
12 Syrian_Jew_ @ 15.162273
13 Sicilian_East_ @ 15.701872
14 Romanian_Jew_ @ 16.193060
15 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 16.922123
16 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 16.983034
17 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 17.003237
18 Lebanese_Druze_ @ 17.126554
19 Lebanese_Christian_ @ 17.236076
20 Greek_Athens_ @ 17.320421

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +50% Greek_Islands_ @ 8.101921


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Christian_Arabs_Israel_ +25% Georgian_Laz_ +25% Sardinian_ @ 4.099204

 

 

 

 

ДЛЯ СРАВНЕНИЯ :

 

СОВРЕМЕННЫЙ ТУРОК ИЗ ТОЙ ЖЕ ЛОКАЦИИ ( Кыршехир...)...

 

puntDNAL K12 modern

 

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 28.54
2 Anatolian_NF 27.95
3 Near_East 11.96
4 European_HG 11.07
5 East_Asian 6.78
6 Siberian 6.35
7 South_Asian 4.12
8 Amerindian 1.31


Finished reading population data. 135 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Aydin @ 7.720378
2 Turkish @ 11.157304
3 Turkish_Kayseri @ 15.581287
4 Nogai @ 16.215765
5 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 17.216215
6 Kurdish @ 17.465765
7 Lebanese @ 18.043579
8 Sicilian_East @ 18.101967
9 Assyrian @ 18.600979
10 Sicilian_West @ 19.228670
11 Syrian @ 19.999912
12 Cypriot @ 20.123589
13 Kumyk @ 20.854126
14 Greek @ 21.163874
15 Palestinian @ 21.174234
16 Druze @ 21.382940
17 Iranian_Jew @ 21.466494
18 Iranian @ 21.686722
19 Moroccan_Jew @ 21.722210
20 Balkar @ 22.102951

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish_Jew +50% Uzbek @ 3.628577


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +25% Hazara +25% Spanish_Southwest @ 2.936852

 

 

 

Eurogenes K13

 

 

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 27.26
2 East_Med 25.23
3 West_Med 11.52
4 Siberian 7.36
5 Baltic 7.15
6 North_Atlantic 6.98
7 East_Asian 5.52
8 Red_Sea 5.11
9 South_Asian 2.80
10 Amerindian 1.08


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish @ 7.827005
2 Azeri @ 12.115146
3 Turkmen @ 15.416478
4 Kurdish @ 18.422138
5 Kumyk @ 18.570681
6 Georgian_Jewish @ 18.789095
7 Iranian @ 18.978643
8 Armenian @ 19.156500
9 Assyrian @ 19.462763
10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 19.852335
11 Nogay @ 20.215675
12 Syrian @ 20.334293
13 Central_Greek @ 21.214485
14 Iranian_Jewish @ 21.888222
15 East_Sicilian @ 21.967295
16 Kurdish_Jewish @ 22.030170
17 Cyprian @ 22.043495
18 Balkar @ 22.044586
19 South_Italian @ 22.422161
20 Kabardin @ 23.159328

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% Nogay @ 2.316665


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% North_Ossetian +25% Uygur @ 2.066952

 

 

 

MDLP K23b

 

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.92
2 South_Central_Asian 13.38
3 European_Early_Farmers 11.78
4 Near_East 10.05
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.76
6 Tungus-Altaic 5.68
7 South_East_Asian 4.00
8 Ancestral_Altaic 3.92
9 North_African 3.78
10 East_Siberian 2.86
11 South_Indian 1.89
12 Melano_Polynesian 1.53


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin_ @ 8.711747
2 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 9.255285
3 Turk_Adana_ @ 10.547227
4 Turk_ @ 10.965065
5 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 11.683854
6 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 12.140862
7 Syrian_Jew_ @ 14.830103
8 Georgian_Jew_ @ 15.257236
9 Azeri_ @ 15.646427
10 Azov_Greek_ @ 15.908009
11 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 16.021025
12 Iraki_ @ 16.045719
13 Cretan_ @ 16.095943
14 Kurd_North_ @ 16.215921
15 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 16.792669
16 Kurd_South_ @ 16.900669
17 Nogai_ @ 16.970963
18 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 17.030437
19 Lebanese_Muslim_ @ 17.075161
20 Sicilian_West_ @ 17.164715

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +50% Turkmen_Uzbekistan_ @ 3.520825


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_ +25% Turk_Jew_ +25% Uygur-Han_ @ 2.917146

 

 

P.S. iMO наиболее показательна разница/сравнение по результатам Eurogenes K13

 

 

P.P.S.

Отмечу, что Кыршехир и области расположенные южнее (особенно, кочевники-юрюки) отличается самой высокой среднеазиатской примесью в Анатолии

= большинство современных обитателей тех мест моделируются как Turk Jew 50% + Uzbek 50%

Турки же из других регионов, как правило, моделируются как смесь эгейских греков и северных кавказцев

[Dodge Charger]

Антропологические особенности изображений людей с колесницы Тутанхамона и гробницы его военачальника Хоремхеба

 

Египтяне

 

 

Ливийцы

 

 

Азиаты и кушиты

 

[Dodge Charger]

Интересно, что наиболее европейской внешностью, особенно в сочетании с более поздними их изображениями 13-12 веков, обладают ливийцы. Еще надо учитывать то, что это "Ребу", недавние пришельцы с отдаленного запада, а не многолетние непосредственные западные соседи египтян, "Джемеху" и "Джехену"

[Indiana Jones]

КАК МЕНЯЛОСЬ НАСЕЛЕНИЕ ИРАНА НА ПРОТЯЖЕНИИ ЭПОХ . . .

 

 

НЕОЛИТИЧЕСКИЙ ИРАН :

 

M967114 (I1290 IranN)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 58.91
2 Natufian 38.72
3 Sub_Saharan 1.67
4 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CHG 13.16
2 Baloch_Iranian 20.05
3 Brahui 20.06
4 Balochi 20.28
5 Makrani 20.48
6 Kurd_SE 20.74
7 Iran_N 22.27
8 Iranian_Lori 23.19
9 Kalash 24.36
10 Pathan 25.02
11 Iran_ChL 25.31
12 Iran_LN 26.19
13 Sindhi 26.43
14 Iranian_Mazandarani 26.58
15 Kurd_F 27.59
16 Iranian_Shirazi 27.67
17 Pashtun_Afghan 27.81
18 Punjabi 28
19 Iran_recent 29.76
20 GujaratiA 29.77

 

 

 

ИРАН МЕДНОГО ВЕКА :

 

Chalcolithic Iranian - kit M124870

Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 44.49
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 1.22
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer -
Natufian 54.29
Sub_Saharan -

 

 

ИРАН ЖЕЛЕЗНОГО ВЕКА

 

M381564 (F38_Hasanlu, Iron Age Iran)

 

Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 35.50
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.02
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 11.12
Natufian 51.10
Sub_Saharan 0.25

 

 

 

ИРАН ВЫСОКОГО СРЕДНЕВЕКОВЬЯ :

 

Late Medieval Iranian - kit T637158

 

Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 35.20
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.81
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 10.55
Natufian 51.43
Sub_Saharan -

[Indiana Jones]

КАК МЕНЯЛОСЬ НАСЕЛЕНИЕ ТУРАНА НА ПРОТЯЖЕНИИ ЭПОХ . . .

 

 

АФАНАСЬЕВСКАЯ КУЛЬТУРА :

 

M172663 (Afansievo Rise 511)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 38.03
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 35.36
3 Natufian 19.46
4 East_Asian 5.08
5 Sub_Saharan 1.94
6 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.12

 

 

СИНТАШТИНСКАЯ КУЛЬТУРА :

 

M277797 (RISE395_Sintashta)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 47.85
2 Natufian 26.56

3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 25.59

 

 

СКИФ ИЗ КАЗАХСТАНА :

 

M374116 (Scythian I0247)

Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 31.71
Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.64
East_Asian 13.14
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 29.91
Natufian 22.44
Sub_Saharan 0.16
 

[Indiana Jones]

Вот так вот :]

 

 

[Брут]

КАК МЕНЯЛОСЬ НАСЕЛЕНИЕ ИРАНА НА ПРОТЯЖЕНИИ ЭПОХ . . .

 

 

 

 

Там вроде как Gedrosia в центральном Иране уже с неолита широко представлена (наверное дравиды)

 

КАК МЕНЯЛОСЬ НАСЕЛЕНИЕ ТУРАНА НА ПРОТЯЖЕНИИ ЭПОХ . . .

 

 

А здесь таки заметно менялось - степь как-никак. И если всякие-там афанасьевцы, скифы, андроновцы и тп более-менее еще могут присутствовать как примеси и отдаленно быть похожими на некоторые современные народы, то вот ботайцы (которые типа первыми одомашнили лошадь) крайне далеки от всех остальных. И это же медный век, а не верхний палеолит.

[Ruotsi]

Там вроде как Gedrosia в центральном Иране уже с неолита широко представлена (наверное дравиды)

Это ещё зависит от того, насколько брагуи в Белуджистане автохтоны...
 

[Indiana Jones]

Брут 

 

В этом калькуляторе австралоиды = Ancestral South Eurasian (Ancient South Eurasian)

 

У неолитчика всего 0,7%, а у средневекового перса = 2,8%

 

И у современных иранцев варьирует где-то в пределах от 5% до 15%.

 

Что касается древних результатов, то они пока не очень репрезентативны, в силу малого количества.

[Indiana Jones]

Реконструкция внешности жителей римского города Виминациум ( территория современной Сербии )

 

Автор = сербский антрополог Ilija Mikic

 

 

Reconstruction of faces of some anthropological types of the citizens of ancient Viminacium, ancient Roman town in eastern Serbia:
1 – Mediterranean anthropological type, based on a skull from grave G-343, found at necropolis at Više grobalja archaeological site in Viminacium.
2 – Negroid anthropological type, based on a skull from grave G-595, found at necropolis at Više grobalja archaeological site in Viminacium.
3 – Woman of Mediterranean anthropological type, based on a skull from grave G-4661, found at necropolis at Pećine archaeological site in Viminacium
4 - Nordic anthropological type, based on a skull with artificial deformation from grave G-1318, found at necropolis at Više grobalja archaeological site in Viminacium.

Viminacium was fortified Roman city, capital of Moesia Superior province and base camp of VII Claudia Legion. It had around 30 000 inhabitants, and its population wasn’t consisted only of locals, but also from people from other parts of the Roman Empire and distant areas which were not ruled by Romans.
Archaeologists have discovered more than 14 000 graves at Viminacium, with more than 20 000 skeletal remains, and among them are identified at least 10 different anthropological types.
Based on human remains found so far, we can say that Mediterranean anthropological type the most common among the citizens of ancient Viminacium.
Interesting facts is that there have been found remains of people of Negroid anthropological type originating from distant Africa region. Also, there are remains of 31 individuals with artificially deformed and elongated skulls, who belonged to some Germanic tribe. Practice of cranial deformation originated from Central Asia and adopted by some European tribes, in order to achieve aesthetic ideals or to show a certain social status.
These reconstructed faces represent only 4 anthropological types out of 10 discovered, other will be reconstructed and displayed in the future.
Site of Viminacium covers area of 450 hectares, and so far, only 2% have been excavated. Archaeologists say that there is enough material for the next 300 years of digging and exploration.
More than 14 000 graves and tombs with more than 30 000 interesting and valuable grave goods inside them have been found at Viminacium necropolises, which makes them the largest Roman cemetery in the world.
Unfortunately, most of Viminacium’s remains were found at the foot of a massive coal-fired power station and above the coal mine deposits, and archaeological excavations are being carried out before new units of the plant and intensive coal mining devastate this ancient site

 

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[Cicero]

крайний слева сошёл бы за турка, крайний справа вполне себе северный итальянец.
впрочем как я и думал,облик у римлян был самый разный.))

[Cicero]

кстати,а от пунов какие либо следы остались?

[Indiana Jones]

Cicero

 

 

 

крайний слева сошёл бы за турка, крайний справа вполне себе северный итальянец.
впрочем как я и думал,облик у римлян был самый разный.))

 

Естественно, после эдикта Каракаллы они все стали "римянами"

Но, в основном, это не италики.

Большинство населения в таких городах составляли местные жители.

В данном случае = мезы (фракийцы)

Негроид и крайний справа персонаж приведены как примеры людей, чей облик отличался от местных жителей.

 

Конечно, наверно, там были и италики.

Вопрос в том, что они представляли, как правило, прослойку купеческого класса...

 

P.S. Археологи и антропологи исследовали 20 тысяч останков из "римских" могил Восточной Сербии,

и отмечают, что

"Based on human remains found so far, we can say that Mediterranean anthropological type the most common among the citizens of ancient Viminacium."

 

 

P.P.S. Отредактировал свой предыдущий пост :

добавил комментарии самих авторов

[Cicero]

Есть ли вообще приемственность у итальянцев с римлянами? Я имею в виду генетику в первую очередь. Про Каракаллу упоминал Понасенков в своей лекции,как о примере мультикультурного предателя)).

Сообщение изменено: Cicero, 21 Октябрь 2020 - 12:06.

[Indiana Jones]

Cicero

 

 

Генофонд древних латинов ~ соответствует генофонду современных северных итальянцев.

 

 

 

 

НО, 

если сравнивать с городским населением времен расцвета Римской Империи,

то в современной Италии нет индивидов с настолько "восточной генетикой".

 

Многие горожане из могил времен династии Юлиев-Клавдиев имели генетический профиль, сходный с современными ливанцами и киприотами...

Видимо, в этот период, произошла утечка мозгов из Леванта в Италию.

 

А после падения Западной Империи потомки этих людей, судя по всему, мигрировали в восточные мегаполисы.

 

 

 

Есть ли вообще приемственность у итальянцев с римлянами? Я имею в виду генетику в первую очередь. Про Каракаллу упоминал Понасенков в своей лекции,как о примере мультикультурного предателя)).

[Ruotsi]

Но северные итальянцы так же потомки этрусков, лигуров, венетов и кучи других древних племён северной Италии...

[Indiana Jones]

Ruotsi 

 

Просто, современные итальянцы из Лацио сильно "смещены" в сторону греков, албанцев, черногорцев и других балканцев... 

 

Но северные итальянцы так же потомки этрусков, лигуров, венетов и кучи других древних племён северной Италии...