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Погребальные памятники Буджакской Орды, А.О. Добролюбский, Л.В. Субботин, С.П. Сегеда:

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Об антропологических вариантах в составе казахов, В.Е. Дерябин, М.В. Бескина.



Линк

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А.А. Зубов. Естественная история древнего человечества.

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Долуханов П.М. Происхождение и расселение современного человека: новые факты и гипотезы.

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Из работы А.Г. Козинцева "Prehistoric and recent population of Japan: multivariate analysis of cranioscopic data":

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Из работы- Н. А. Дубовой

АНТРОПОЛОГИЧЕСКИй ПОКРОВ ТУРКМЕНИСТАНА
В ДРЕВНОСТИ И В НАШИ ДНИ


Туркмены:

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Схема развития и классификация человеческих рас по Дебецу:

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"Антропологические материалы из могильника андроновской культуры Фирсово XIV к проблеме формирования населения Верхнего Приобья в эпоху бронзы" К. Н. Солодовников.

Сообщение изменено: RUMALI, 15 Сентябрь 2012 - 23:27.

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Солодовников К. Н.(г.Барнаул).МАТЕРИАЛЫ К АНТРОПОЛОГИИ АФАНАСЬЕВСКОЙ КУЛЬТУРЫ

Сообщение изменено: RUMALI, 24 Сентябрь 2012 - 16:29.

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Солодовников К. Н.(г.Барнаул). МАТЕРИАЛЫ К АНТРОПОЛОГИИ АФАНАСЬЕВСКОЙ КУЛЬТУРЫ.
Индивидуальные изменения женских черепов афанасьевской культуры из могильников по р.Урсул


Своей очень большой длиной обращают на себя внимание черепа №2 и №14.

Сообщение изменено: RUMALI, 24 Сентябрь 2012 - 17:34.

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И.М. Золотарева "О некоторых проблемах этнической антропологии Северной Азии"



http://narod.ru/disk...1971_1.pdf.html

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"Антропологические материалы из могильника у с. Каменное", Дяченко, Покас.

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Территориальные группы русских, украинцев и белорусов. Алексеева Т.И. - Этногенез восточных славян. - 1973

Сообщение изменено: Neyxter, 10 Сентябрь 2015 - 15:57.

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Антропологические параметры некоторых славянских народов. Дяченко В.Д. – Антропологічний склад українського народу. – 1965

Сообщение изменено: Neyxter, 10 Сентябрь 2015 - 15:57.

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Антропологические параметры северо-западных немцев (Высота лица и лицевой указатель указаны от переносья)

Сообщение изменено: Neyxter, 10 Сентябрь 2015 - 15:57.

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Головной указатель балтийских групп. К.Марк, 1976



Антропологические параметры прибалтийских групп. Витов, Марк, Чебоксаров, 1959.

Сообщение изменено: Neyxter, 11 Сентябрь 2015 - 12:28.

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Пигментация кавказских групп. Абдушелишвили, Антропология древнего и современного населения Грузии, 1964.



Сравнение русских и коми-пермяков. Дубова Н. А. Формирование русского населения северо-востока Европейской части СССР: (по антропол. данным), 1986

Сообщение изменено: Neyxter, 11 Сентябрь 2015 - 12:40.

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Цвет волос русских популяций. Бунак, Происхождение и этническая история русского народа, 1965

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Цвет глаз русских популяций. Бунак, Происхождение и этническая история русского народа, 1965

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Дьяченко. "Антропология украинского народа".1965 год.)) Здесь дана сравнительная пигментация глаз народов Балкан и центр. Европы.

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Алексеев В. П. "Историческая антропология и этногенез". Краниологические особенности американских индейцев.

https://arheologija....skih-indeytsev/

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Индекс монголоидности.

 

Данный индекс представляет восемь расовых признаков первого порядка. Применим к популяциям.

 

1. Рост бороды (в баллах).

2. Горизонтальная профилировка лица.

3. Выступающие скулы.

4. Наклон глазной щели.

5. Наличие эпикантуса.

6. Высота переносья (в баллах 1-3)

7. Поперечный профиль спинки носа.

8. Профиль верхней губы (в баллах 1-3).

 

"Mongoloidness" and pigmentation among Finno-Ugric peoples

Heapost, L. INDEX OF MONGOLOIDNESS AND PIGMENTATION IN K. MARK STUDIES. Papers on Anthropology; 2004, Vol. 13, p18-37.

The paper presents an overview of some descriptive anthropological traits of Finno-Ugrians and their neighbouring peoples (133 local ethnic groups, 13,000 individuals). To compare all the ethnic groups between themselves the index of Mongoloidness (MI) was calculated on the basis of eight traits and the index of pigmentation (PI) on the basis of two traits. The results were compared on a correlation field. Here, two tendencies expressing different directions could be discerned: 1) a grouping where the decrease in MI is accompanied by the increase in PI (most Baltic Finns and Erza Mordvinians, Terjuhans and Finnish Swedes); 2) a grouping, which includes most other Finno-Ugric peoples. Here a tendency can be noticed of both indexes increasing in the same direction. A compact grouping that deserves special attention here includes the ethnic groups with the highest values of MI and PI (most Mari, part of Udmurts, northern and Kola Sami, also one group of Chuvash and Tatars). The comparison of ethnic groups on the basis of these indexes provides a graphic overview of the morphological peculiarities of the peoples which are in one way or another connected with the historical developments of the peoples of different regions.

I'm not convinced "Mongoloid" features among western Uralic speakers actually derive from Mongoloid admixture. Certainly if there had been significant recent admixture we'd expect more "Mongoloid" morphology to be associated with darker pigmentation. More excerpts within:

 

Besides studies in the ethnic anthropology of Estonians, the wellknown Estonian anthropologist K. Mark (1922–1999) has assembled an extensive and valuable body of material concerning the morphological characteristics of all the Finno-Ugric peoples. [. . .]

 

To evaluate the share of the so-called Mongoloid addition in the composition of the Finno-Ugric peoples, K. Mark derived and introduced the indexes of Mongoloidness (MI) and pigmentation (PI) [1, 2, 3]. MI shows the position of a group or a population (people) on the scale of Mongoloidness (according to descriptive traits) in comparison with other Finno-Ugric peoples and their neighbours (Table 1, Fig. 1). [. . .]

 

K. Mark’s data on 133 local groups which belong to 22 ethnic groups were used (among them 112 Finno-Ugric, 9 Indo-European and 12 Turkic groups, a total of more than 13,000 individuals).

 

MI is based on the eight descriptive facial traits, which she used to determine the degree of Mongoloidness (Mongoloid addition) and Europoid influence in each group studied (beard growth, horizontal profile of the face, prominence of the cheekbones, eye slit inclination, epicanthus, nose bridge height, nose bridge horizontal profile and upper lip profile). [. . .]

 

Index of Mongoloidness (Table 1, Fig. 1). According to K. Mark’s scale of Mongoloidness, the groups with MI below 25 are Europoids without any Mongoloid addition, with the value above 101 – Mongoloids without Europoid addition. Between these limits, the groups are characterised by a very weak (26–39), weak (40–55), medium (56–70), strong (71–86) or very strong (81–101) Mongoloid addition according to MI. [. . .]

 

Among the Baltic Finns, groups with the mean value of MI below 25 or with no Mongoloid addition occur only in part of Estonians and among most Finns. The other groups of these peoples and the other Baltic Finns are characterised by a very weak Mongoloid addition. However, groups with the mean MI below 25 are also found among most of the Erza Mordvinians, in one group of Moksha Mordvinians and in Terjuhans. These groups are as Europoid as the Finnish Swedes or Volga Russians.

 

In ascending order of the mean MI value, the compared ethnic groups can be listed as follows: the lowest mean MI value among the peoples studied was recorded among Finnish Swedes (13.5), followed by Terjuhans (16.9), Volga-Russians (20.6), Erza Mordvinians (23.9) and Finns, except Northeastern Finns (24.2). These peoples belong to the category without any Mongoloid addition on the given scale of Mongoloidness; they are followed by peoples with a very weak Mongoloid addition according to the mean MI, as Estonians (27.3), Izhorians (28.7), Karelians (30.3), Transcarpathian Hungarians (31.4), Karatais (31.5), Vepsians (32.4), Northeastern Finns (36.5) and Komi-Zyrians (39.4). They are followed by peoples with a weak Mongoloid addition: Komi-Permyaks (41.2), Udmurts (44.5), Sami (48.9) and Mari (49.5). All these peoples are characterised by the mean MI value below the medium on the given scale of Mongoloidness.

 

As for the Turkic peoples, a very weak Mongoloid addition characterises the Tatars (38.3), a weak one – the Chuvash (51.9), who are close to such Finno-Ugric peoples as, for example, most groups of Sami (MI=48.9, var 39.3–53.5) and Mari (MI=49.5, var 41.9–54.1). Bashkirs are characterised by a weak or medium Mongoloid addition on the given scale of Mongoloidness.

 

Among the Finno-Ugric peoples, the Ob-Ugrians – Khants and Mansi – differ from all the others by a strong Mongoloid addition in the more southerly Konda Mansi (72.5), and a very strong Mongoloid addition in the Mansi and Khants of the northern Sosva River district (93.1 and 85.3). [. . .]

 

K. Mark has examined the MI and PI values on a correlation field and has pointed out that there were no expected correlations between these two indexes in the case of the Estonian groups: most of the groups with larger MI values belong to the lightest ones in their PI. The same phenomenon appears in Finland as well as in some other Finno-Ugric peoples. Among the Finno-Ugric peoples, an increase in the Mongoloid addition does not cause as dark pigmentation as in Turkic peoples [1, 3]. [. . .]

 

It should be added that on the correlation field of MI and PI, the studied groups are assembled mainly into two groupings (Fig 3). The first of them is situated in the lower left-hand corner of Figure 3. This grouping includes the Finnish Swedes, the majority of Baltic Finns – all the Estonian and Finnish groups except the Northeastern Salla group (which is situated near the Letka group of southern Komi- Zyrians), Izhorians, most of the Karelian groups; also, from the Volga- Finnic peoples, most of the Erza Mordvinian groups (from Eastern Mordovia) and Terjuhans.

 

This grouping is characterised by a gradual change of a complex of traits – from the groups with very light pigmentation and very weak Mongoloid addition to light-pigmented purely Europoid groups without any Mongoloid addition. This means that the gradual increase in PI is accompanied by a gradual decrease in MI.

 

Most of the studied groups of eastern Finno-Ugric peoples with quite a wide variation range of PI and MI are scattered into the other grouping in Fig. 3. This grouping also includes the Transcarpathian Hungarians characterised by a very weak Mongoloid addition like many other Finno-Ugric peoples and some Tatar groups; on the pigmentation scale, they have medium pigmentation like Bessermen, some groups of Mari and Permian-Finns.

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Кто такие "Bessermen" (бусурмане-вассерманы)?

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Удмуртский субэтнос.

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Удмуртский субэтнос.

Понятно, почему мне гугл тогда ничего не выдал, ибо этот субэтнос в англ. языке указывается как "Besermyan, Biserman, Besermans or Besermens"

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© В.Е. Дерябин, Д.С. Давыдова АНТРОПОЛОГИЧЕСКИЕ ВАРИАНТЫ В СОСТАВЕ ЯПОНЦЕВ

https://journal.iea....in_Davydova.pdf

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Популяции Азии и немного Балкан из работы Дерябина


Можно сравнить с восточноевропейцами
https://www.balto-sl...=12265&p=367696
и кавказцами
https://www.balto-sl...ic=859&p=367739

Свел все использованные данные  от шведов до индийцев в одну табличку

 

Табличные данные популяций из Дерябина

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Последние обновление июля 29 2021 11:28

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Перезалил в галерею форума таблицы с краниологическими данными средневековых славян, германцев, финно-угров и балтов из работы Алексеевой Т.И, а то на первой странице они уже начали протухать, будучи загруженными на радикал.  Изображения кликабельны.

Альбом: Таблицы со славянами, германцами, финнами

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