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[eugene-march]

Проценты генетических компонентов тюркских народов:

 

[eugene-march]

Относительно трех сибирских компонентов: North-Siberian, East-Siberian et Paleo-Siberian. Распределение примерно следующее:



North-Siberian преобладает у нгасанов (80,2%), эвенов (38,6%), эвенков (31,2%), ненцев (25,2 %), юкагиров (24,4%), якутов (22,4%).

East-Siberian у якутов (64,3%), эвенков (58,3%), эвенов (52,2%), бурятов (49,0%), нивхов (45,6%), монголов (44,1%), тувинцев (42,7%), калмыков (43,2%), алтайцев (34,3 %), киргизов (33,4%), казахов (30,4%), японцев (29,9 %).

Paleo-Siberian широко представлен только у коряков (71,9%) и чукчей (42,0%).

[Fenris]

Уважаемый Сергей Козлов представил недавно новую таблицу для некоторых восточноевропейских и ряда смежных популяций на основе данных калькулятора Поляко Eurogenes К36. Взял на себя смелость добавить в нее псковскую выборку и визуализировать, проведя сортировку по "восточно-центральноевропейскому" компоненту.

[hirundo]

А откуда у северных русских South_Central_Asia?

[Fenris]

А откуда у северных русских South_Central_Asia?

1,4% не так много. Могу предположить, что с юго-востока: у коми 3%, а южнее у народов Поволжья возрастает до 4-5%.

[hirundo]

1,4% не так много. Могу предположить, что с юго-востока: у коми 3%, а южнее у народов Поволжья возрастает до 4-5%.

Тогда странно, почему у русских Вятки этой компоненты нет.

[eugene-march]

А оракула для этого калькулятора нет?

[eugene-march]

А оракула для этого калькулятора нет?

Нашел. От Сергея Козлова:

"Можно воспользоваться программой, распаковываем http://db.tt/634mFXL2 на компьютер, далее помещаем туда файл оракула четырех предков для К36 из моего предыдущего сообщения, запускаем Admix4_097, выбираем опять файл оракула К36 (Data_EG_K36), вводим нужные значения компонентов, нажимаем Go! Результат должен вывестись в файл, имя которого написано в окошке Output file.

Но на некоторых компьютерах она не работает. Могут быть проблемы, если разделителем разрядов в системе установлена точка вместо запятой, и еще в каких-то случаях."

[eugene-march]

Вот, что у меня получилось:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Center @ 7,423552
2 Russian_Smolensk @ 8,102719
3 Ukrainian_East @ 8,346023
4 Russian_Oryol @ 8,506097
5 Russian_Kursk @ 8,657671
6 Polish @ 9,020077
7 Russian_Voronezh @ 9,185046
8 Belarusian_Polesye @ 9,459687
9 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 9,87207
10 Russian_Bryansk @ 10,040377
11 Belarusian_East @ 10,522955
12 Ukrainian_West @ 11,014947
13 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 13,068567
14 Erzya @ 13,147589
15 Moksha @ 14,171738
16 Moldavian @ 15,520827
17 Russian_Vyatka @ 16,619934
18 Lithuanian @ 16,865007
19 Russian_Perm @ 17,028762
20 Russian_North @ 17,911922

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_West @ 6,655528
2 Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_West @ 6,783806
3 Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_West @ 6,857414

Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Bryansk @ 3,43551
2 Ukrainian_East @ 3,475967
3 Polish @ 3,762366
4 Russian_Center @ 3,807144
5 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 3,85789
6 Russian_Oryol @ 3,858901
7 Russian_Smolensk @ 3,917146
8 Russian_Kursk @ 4,062141
9 Belarusian_Polesye @ 4,319683
10 Russian_Voronezh @ 4,448859
11 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 4,513404
12 Ukrainian_West @ 4,745219
13 Russian_Vyatka @ 4,819487
14 Carpathian @ 5,36473
15 Russian_Perm @ 5,365375
16 Belarusian_East @ 5,430127
17 Estonian @ 5,674889
18 Mishar_Bashkiria @ 6,160561
19 Moldavian @ 6,311719
20 Sweden-2 @ 6,803863
43 iterations.

[Tanasquel]

Вот, что у меня получилось:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Center @ 7,423552
2 Russian_Smolensk @ 8,102719
3 Ukrainian_East @ 8,346023
4 Russian_Oryol @ 8,506097
5 Russian_Kursk @ 8,657671
6 Polish @ 9,020077
7 Russian_Voronezh @ 9,185046
8 Belarusian_Polesye @ 9,459687
9 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 9,87207
10 Russian_Bryansk @ 10,040377
11 Belarusian_East @ 10,522955
12 Ukrainian_West @ 11,014947
13 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 13,068567
14 Erzya @ 13,147589
15 Moksha @ 14,171738
16 Moldavian @ 15,520827
17 Russian_Vyatka @ 16,619934
18 Lithuanian @ 16,865007
19 Russian_Perm @ 17,028762
20 Russian_North @ 17,911922

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_West @ 6,655528
2 Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_West @ 6,783806
3 Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_West @ 6,857414

Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Bryansk @ 3,43551
2 Ukrainian_East @ 3,475967
3 Polish @ 3,762366
4 Russian_Center @ 3,807144
5 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 3,85789
6 Russian_Oryol @ 3,858901
7 Russian_Smolensk @ 3,917146
8 Russian_Kursk @ 4,062141
9 Belarusian_Polesye @ 4,319683
10 Russian_Voronezh @ 4,448859
11 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 4,513404
12 Ukrainian_West @ 4,745219
13 Russian_Vyatka @ 4,819487
14 Carpathian @ 5,36473
15 Russian_Perm @ 5,365375
16 Belarusian_East @ 5,430127
17 Estonian @ 5,674889
18 Mishar_Bashkiria @ 6,160561
19 Moldavian @ 6,311719
20 Sweden-2 @ 6,803863
43 iterations.

максимально точно?

[eugene-march]

максимально точно?

В целом, близко. У меня из 8-ми линий: 4 линии- запад и северо-запад Смоленщины, 2 линии- запад Калужской губернии, 2 линии- запад Владимирской губернии.

[andronn]

Для сравнения, мои результаты
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Belarusian_Polesye @ 5,351797
2 Ukrainian_East @ 6,117656
3 Polish @ 6,878817
4 Russian_Smolensk @ 7,185916
5 Russian_Bryansk @ 7,594955
6 Russian_Oryol @ 7,66838
7 Russian_Center @ 7,710826
8 Russian_Voronezh @ 7,80205
9 Belarusian_East @ 8,525458
10 Russian_Kursk @ 8,724163
11 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 10,692266
12 Ukrainian_West @ 11,221479
13 Moldavian @ 12,960281
14 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 13,763594
15 Lithuanian @ 14,762333
16 Erzya @ 15,837175
17 Moksha @ 16,908178
18 Russian_Perm @ 17,146245
19 Carpathian @ 17,235305
20 Russian_Vyatka @ 18,057207
43 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Belarusian_Polesye+Ukrainian_East @ 4,961414
2 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye @ 5,351797
3 Carpathian+Lithuanian @ 5,714889
4 Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 5,78427
5 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Center @ 5,801693
6 Belarusian_Polesye+Polish @ 5,876323
7 Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East @ 5,908664
8 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk @ 5,925153
9 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,931535
10 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Oryol @ 5,951083
11 Polish+Ukrainian_East @ 5,966563
12 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Voronezh @ 6,024036
13 Russian_Voronezh+Ukrainian_East @ 6,061539
14 Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 6,117656
15 Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East @ 6,120342
16 Polish+Russian_Center @ 6,266592
17 Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 6,346623
18 Russian_Oryol+Ukrainian_East @ 6,388093
19 Belarusian_East+Belarusian_Polesye @ 6,413328
20 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Kursk @ 6,479913
946 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Carpathian +25% Lithuanian @ 4,92313
2 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Ukrainian_East @ 4,952187
3 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Ukrainian_East +25% Ukrainian_East @ 4,961414
4 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Carpathian +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 5,043498
5 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Ukrainian_East @ 5,131992
6 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Center +25% Ukrainian_East @ 5,13731
7 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Carpathian +25% Russian_Center @ 5,139744
8 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Carpathian @ 5,175653
9 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 5,198358
10 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Voronezh +25% Ukrainian_East @ 5,229787
11 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Ukrainian_East @ 5,243525
12 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Polish +25% Ukrainian_East @ 5,280188
13 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Carpathian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 5,293086
14 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Carpathian @ 5,302255
15 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Oryol +25% Ukrainian_East @ 5,309305
16 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_East +25% Carpathian @ 5,315789
17 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Carpathian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 5,32987
18 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Center @ 5,332888
19 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 5,340866
20 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Center @ 5,343526
30829 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Center @ 4,922704
2 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian @ 4,92313
3 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Ukrainian_East @ 4,952187
4 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 4,961414
5 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_East @ 4,993973
6 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk @ 5,03428
7 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Russian_Bryansk @ 5,043498
8 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,054946
9 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Voronezh @ 5,058716
10 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Center @ 5,104694
11 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,118434
12 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 5,131992
13 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East @ 5,13731
14 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Russian_Center @ 5,139744
15 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 5,161458
16 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 5,169056
17 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 5,175653
18 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East @ 5,185734
19 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Polish+Russian_Center @ 5,18848
20 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Polish @ 5,195599
21 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Oryol @ 5,196273
22 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 5,198358
23 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East @ 5,214773
24 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Voronezh+Ukrainian_East @ 5,229787
25 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Voronezh+Ukrainian_East @ 5,235743
26 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Voronezh @ 5,239133
27 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East @ 5,243525
28 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,245748
29 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Center @ 5,259064
30 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Polish+Ukrainian_East @ 5,280188
31 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 5,284098
32 Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Kursk @ 5,291724
33 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,293086
34 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian @ 5,302255
35 Belarusian_East+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Lithuanian @ 5,307639
36 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Oryol+Ukrainian_East @ 5,309305
37 Belarusian_East+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian @ 5,315789
38 Belarusian_East+Belarusian_Polesye+Carpathian+Russian_Bryansk @ 5,322753
39 Carpathian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,32987
40 Carpathian+Lithuanian+Russian_Center+Russian_Smolensk @ 5,332403
109127 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Belarusian_Polesye @ 3,079581
2 Ukrainian_East @ 3,113511
3 Russian_Bryansk @ 3,245684
4 Polish @ 3,271019
5 Russian_Smolensk @ 3,466885
6 Russian_Oryol @ 3,50803
7 Russian_Kursk @ 3,824755
8 Russian_Center @ 3,836542
9 Russian_Voronezh @ 3,972921
10 Ukrainian_West @ 4,496986
11 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 4,775097
12 Carpathian @ 5,185905
13 Belarusian_East @ 5,744034
14 Moldavian @ 5,75388
15 Mishar_Bashkiria @ 6,458546
16 Sweden-2 @ 6,459954
17 Sweden-1 @ 6,476803
18 Russian_Perm @ 6,957207
19 Tatar_Tatarstan @ 7,228808
20 Tatar_Yunusbaev @ 7,471411
43 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,066539
2 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye @ 3,079581
3 Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,113511
4 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,137474
5 Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,149109
6 Belarusian_Polesye+Ukrainian_East @ 3,149633
7 Polish+Ukrainian_East @ 3,190593
8 Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,210799
9 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,245684
10 Belarusian_Polesye+Polish @ 3,258147
11 Polish+Polish @ 3,271019
12 Russian_Oryol+Ukrainian_East @ 3,300875
13 Polish+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,32901
14 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,332938
15 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,334278
16 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Oryol @ 3,341967
17 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Oryol @ 3,37612
18 Polish+Russian_Oryol @ 3,380985
19 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 3,39809
20 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Kursk @ 3,402575
946 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Ukrainian_East +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,066539
2 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,072877
3 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 3,101582
4 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,110407
5 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 3,112998
6 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Polish +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,115873
7 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Polish +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 3,116326
8 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,12069
9 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,120799
10 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 3,126423
11 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 3,137474
12 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 3,144058
13 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,144411
14 50% Polish +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,145971
15 50% Polish +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Russian_Bryansk @ 3,149109
16 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Ukrainian_East +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,149633
17 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,149675
18 50% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Belarusian_Polesye +25% Estonian @ 3,155435
19 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Polish +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,156441
20 50% Ukrainian_East +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Ukrainian_East @ 3,164286
20915 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,066539
2 Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,072877
3 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye @ 3,079581
4 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,101582
5 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,110407
6 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,112998
7 Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,113511
8 Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,115873
9 Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,116326
10 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,12069
11 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,120799
12 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Novgorod_Yarosl
avl @ 3,126423
13 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,137474
14 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,144058
15 Belarusian_Polesye+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,144411
16 Polish+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,145971
17 Polish+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,149109
18 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,149633
19 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Ukrainian_East @ 3,149675
20 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Estonian @ 3,155435
21 Polish+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,156441
22 Belarusian_Polesye+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,160543
23 Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,164286
24 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,166558
25 Polish+Polish+Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,170493
26 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,172342
27 Belarusian_Polesye+Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,175636
28 Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,178801
29 Polish+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,182065
30 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Polish @ 3,190083
31 Polish+Polish+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,190593
32 Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Oryol+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,191847
33 Belarusian_Polesye+Polish+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,19383
34 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,1955
35 Polish+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,196142
36 Belarusian_Polesye+Polish+Polish+Russian_Bryansk @ 3,197244
37 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East @ 3,200115
38 Belarusian_Polesye+Russian_Smolensk+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,207598
39 Estonian+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East+Ukrainian_East @ 3,209567
40 Belarusian_Polesye+Belarusian_Polesye+Polish+Ukrainian_East @ 3,209893

[eugene-march]

Для сравнения, мои результаты

Неплохой оракул.
Добавил карту в свое сообщение. А ваши русские откуда?

[andronn]

Неплохой оракул.
Добавил карту в свое сообщение. А ваши русские откуда?

Ну по русским, точно знаю олько одну линию, это Курская губ., ну а по остальным русским, откуда пришли в Бессарабию, не знаю, там одна линия сторообрядцы, выходцы с каких губерний России беспонятия, вот только по калькуляторам, приходится примерно вычислять.

[Fenris]

Результаты по родственникам и друзьям любопытно отличаются от MDLP-27, хотя в целом выглядят корректно. Безумно жаль, что пока нет чисто новгородской выборки.

Псков-1
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 8,588036
2 Russian_Center @ 9,603447
3 Russian_Smolensk @ 10,125425
4 Belarusian_East @ 10,44413
5 Russian_Kursk @ 10,712163
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl+Russian_Vyatka @ 5,743455
2 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 5,783213
3 Lithuanian+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl+Russian_Novgoro
d_Yaroslavl @ 6,115064
4 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_North+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 6,149245

Псков-2
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Smolensk @ 5,512499
2 Russian_Center @ 5,844103
3 Belarusian_East @ 6,776594
4 Russian_Kursk @ 7,323378
5 Russian_Bryansk @ 7,591362
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Center+Russian_Meshtchyora @ 3,31876
2 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Meshtchyora+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,45827
3 Lithuanian+Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,505612
4 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Vyatka @ 3,522705
5 Lithuanian+Russian_Center+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk @ 3,525025

Псков-3
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lithuanian @ 8,62399
2 Belarusian_East @ 9,577287
3 Russian_Center @ 9,699709
4 Russian_Bryansk @ 10,276371
5 Russian_Smolensk @ 10,738131
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_North @ 6,430453
2 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Center+Russian_North @ 6,442339
3 Belarusian_East+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_North @ 6,542503
4 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Bryansk+Russian_North @ 6,590859
5 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Center+Russian_Perm @ 6,659443

Слобожанские/Забайкальские казаки 50/50
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 7,746739
2 Russian_Kursk @ 9,31573
3 Russian_Voronezh @ 9,512184
4 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 9,928817
5 Russian_Oryol @ 10,209321
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Polish+Russian_Kursk+Russian_North+Russian_Perm @ 6,59186
2 Polish+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Perm+Russian_Perm @ 6,603885
3 Polish+Polish+Russian_North+Russian_Perm @ 6,612041
4 Lithuanian+Moksha+Russian_Vyatka+Sweden-1 @ 6,63505
5 Moksha+Polish+Russian_North+Russian_Perm @ 6,669794
6 Lithuanian+Moksha+Russian_Perm+Sweden-1 @ 6,693405

Украина + ¼ Латвия
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_Oryol @ 8,510675
2 Russian_Kursk @ 9,237986
3 Russian_Voronezh @ 9,682807
4 Polish @ 9,834192
5 Belarusian_Polesye @ 9,876397
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belarusian_Polesye+Lithuanian+Mishar_Drozh+Sweden-1 @ 7,195616
2 Lithuanian+Mishar_Drozh+Russian_Oryol+Sweden-1 @ 7,253955
3 Belarusian_East+Lithuanian+Mishar_Drozh+Sweden-1 @ 7,269652
4 Lithuanian+Mishar_Drozh+Russian_Kursk+Sweden-1 @ 7,2762
5 Lithuanian+Mishar_Drozh+Sweden-1+Ukrainian_East @ 7,301643

Иваново+околоПольша
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Erzya @ 4,364437
2 Moksha @ 8,120408
3 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 8,159262
4 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 8,191665
5 Russian_Vyatka @ 8,716209
6 Russian_Perm @ 10,489905
7 Russian_Oryol @ 10,730271
8 Russian_Kursk @ 10,826021
9 Russian_Center @ 10,954882
10 Russian_Voronezh @ 10,956516
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Erzya+Erzya+Erzya+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 3,825196
2 Erzya+Erzya+Moksha+Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 4,1321
3 Erzya+Erzya+Erzya+Russian_Vyatka @ 4,198496
4 Erzya+Erzya+Russian_Oryol+Russian_Vyatka @ 4,333481
5 Erzya+Erzya+Erzya+Erzya @ 4,364437

Сообщение изменено: Fenris, 12 Март 2014 - 17:53.

[Tanasquel]

Фенрис, а Слобожанские откуда?

[Fenris]

Фенрис, а Слобожанские откуда?

К сожалению, еще не добрался до местных архивов. Но во всех краеведческих материалах пишут, что Старая Криуша была основана и заселена острогожскими казаками. Несмотря на последующую миграцию, полагаю, там в целом должна была сохраниться эта генетическая основа.

[korvin]

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,633018
2 Russian_Center @ 2,893367
3 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 @ 3,146046
4 Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 4,8168
5 Russian_South_R3 @ 5,207489
6 Ukrainian_R2 @ 5,523542
7 Polish_D @ 5,730924
8 Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 5,871027
9 Erzya_R4 @ 6,097815
10 Moksha_R3 @ 6,203264
11 Belarusian_SW_R1 @ 6,595676
12 Belarusian_D @ 7,174546
13 Russian_Vyatka_R2 @ 7,630718
14 Russian_North_R8 @ 8,408514
15 Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 8,754003
16 Russian_Perm_R3 @ 11,342012
17 Slovak_D @ 11,931671
18 Balt_R2 @ 12,474634
19 Russian_Ladoga_D @ 13,474446
20 Carpathian_R1 @ 14,71622
21 Mishar_R2 @ 14,829363
22 Estonian_D @ 15,458105
23 Tatar_Bashkiria_R3 @ 16,483491
24 Tatar_R5 @ 17,425804
25 Polish_German_R1 @ 18,002848
26 Komi_R1 @ 18,534845
27 Permyak_D @ 21,206902
28 German_D @ 23,182411
29 Norwegian_R4 @ 23,672661
30 Udmurt_R1 @ 24,328549
31 Mansi_D @ 24,875518
32 Serbian_R1 @ 25,042728
33 Chuvash_R3 @ 25,308045
34 English_R2 @ 26,980754
35 Bashkir_R3 @ 27,382318
36 British_German_R1 @ 28,535449
37 Irish_Scottish_R2 @ 29,715589
38 Mari_R1 @ 29,811764
39 Romanian_D @ 34,762256
40 Finnish_South_West_R2 @ 35,863923
41 Finnish_Inkeri_R2 @ 40,466021
42 Ashkenazi_R3 @ 45,168901
43 Finnish_North_East_R2 @ 46,542653
44 Sicilian_R2 @ 47,463937
45 Selkup_R1 @ 50,298448
46 Kazakh_R2 @ 51,930646
47 Korean_R1 @ 78,119574
47 iterations.


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,047863
2 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,053098
3 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,075485
4 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,110328
5 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,121349
6 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,129533
7 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,137183
8 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Center+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,142952
9 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,150873
10 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,15256
11 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,169755
12 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 2,177805
13 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,179071
14 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,179536
15 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 2,180604
16 Russian_Perm_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,195614
17 Russian_North_R8+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,197073
18 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 2,203077
19 Russian_North_R8+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,203485
20 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,204104
21 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,204541
22 Russian_North_R8+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,205329
23 Russian_North_R8+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,223567
24 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,224028
25 Russian_North_R8+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,224667
26 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 2,226712
27 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,230722
28 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 2,234964
29 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 2,235504
30 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,240557
31 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,243062
32 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,243403
33 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,244113
34 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,244323
35 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Center+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,246074
36 Russian_North_R8+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,256727
37 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,259616
38 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2 @ 2,260446
39 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,26214
40 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,266236
41 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,268504
42 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,270614
43 Russian_Perm_R3+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Belarusian_D @ 2,274095
44 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,274221
45 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Pskov_R3+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,274986
46 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West
_R7 @ 2,276349
47 Russian_North_R8+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,280974
48 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_East_R4+Polish_D @ 2,287573
49 Russian_North_R8+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,290292
50 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,291444
51 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,292442
52 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,299053
53 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,300154
54 Russian_Center+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2 @ 2,300535
55 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,302082
56 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,304892
57 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,30577
58 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,307824
59 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R
2 @ 2,31176
60 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2 @ 2,316863
61 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,323323
62 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,333269
63 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,337818
64 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4+Polish_D @ 2,346031
65 Erzya_R4+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,350734
66 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Belarusian_D @ 2,351169
67 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2 @ 2,35521
68 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,357054
69 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,359853
70 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7+Polish_D @ 2,360454
71 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,362662
72 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Center+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2 @ 2,363951
73 Russian_Perm_R3+Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,366944
74 Russian_Perm_R3+Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,368352
75 Russian_Perm_R3+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,369191
76 Russian_Perm_R3+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,369514
77 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East_R4+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,374579
78 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,374627
79 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Belarusian_D @ 2,375179
80 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2 @ 2,376971
81 Russian_Center+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 2,378017
82 Russian_North_R8+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,379789
83 Russian_Center+Russian_Center+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2 @ 2,382507
84 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,383035
85 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Pskov_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4+Slovak_D @ 2,383525
86 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2 @ 2,384603
87 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,385529
88 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Center+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R4 @ 2,385723
89 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,386579
90 Russian_Vyatka_R2+Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East_R4+Polish_D @ 2,388741
91 Russian_Perm_R3+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2 @ 2,389903
92 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,39729
93 Russian_North_R8+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,398573
94 Russian_Center+Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,401225
160502 iterations.

Очень близко к истине.

Сообщение изменено: korvin, 13 Март 2014 - 17:58.

[exorcio]

Обьясните пожалуйста как MDLP-27 пользоваться и где его взять

[andronn]

Обьясните пожалуйста как MDLP-27 пользоваться и где его взять

На гедматче этого калькулятора нет, это надо на молген обращаться, там знающие люди помогут, мне например мои данные через этот кальк. прогнал Srkz, попробуйте у нему обратиться.

[Ravnur]

Прогнался про трём самым популярным калькуляторам:

MDLP World-22 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 66.18
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 21.15
3 West-Asian 5.1
4 North-European-Mesolithic 4.57
5 North-Amerind 0.6
6 Paleo-Siberian 0.51
7 East-South-Asian 0.44
8 Indo-Iranian 0.39
9 Indo-Tibetan 0.38
10 Near_East 0.3
11 Austronesian 0.27
12 North-Siberean 0.08
13 Mesoamerican 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian_V (derived) 3.34
2 Polish_V (derived) 3.63
3 Sorb (derived) 3.95
4 Ukrainian-Center (derived) 4.47
5 Russian_cossack (derived) 4.76
6 Ukrainian-East (derived) 4.82
7 Russian_South (derived) 5.12
8 Polish (derived) 5.37
9 Ukrainian_V (derived) 5.41
10 Ukrainian (derived) 5.44
11 Russian_V (derived) 5.47
12 Ukrainian-West (derived) 6.02
13 Russian_Center (derived) 6.52
14 Mordovian_V (derived) 8.48
15 Slovakian (derived) 8.75
16 Moldavian (derived) 9.64
17 Russian (derived) 9.64
18 Mordovian (derived) 9.95
19 Czech (derived) 10.52
20 Russian_North (derived) 11.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.5% Latvian (derived) + 45.5% German_V (derived) @ 1.86
2 82.5% Polish_V (derived) + 17.5% Swedish_V (derived) @ 1.96
3 53.1% German-North (derived) + 46.9% Latvian (derived) @ 2.11
4 83.4% Polish_V (derived) + 16.6% Swedish (derived) @ 2.11
5 87.6% Polish_V (derived) + 12.4% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 2.15
6 63.7% Latvian (derived) + 36.3% German-South (derived) @ 2.15
7 70.8% Russian_Center (derived) + 29.2% Swedish (derived) @ 2.19
8 68.3% Russian_Center (derived) + 31.7% German-North (derived) @ 2.24
9 53.1% German (derived) + 46.9% Latvian (derived) @ 2.29
10 73% German (derived) + 27% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 2.32
11 54.2% Latvian (derived) + 45.8% CEU_V (derived) @ 2.35
12 79.6% Russian_Center (derived) + 20.4% British (derived) @ 2.37
13 89% Belarusian_V (derived) + 11% Inkeri (derived) @ 2.37
14 73% German-North (derived) + 27% North-East-European (ancestral) @ 2.38
15 76% Russian_South (derived) + 24% Swedish_V (derived) @ 2.38
16 79% Russian_Center (derived) + 21% CEU (derived) @ 2.39
17 52.9% Lithuanian_V (derived) + 47.1% German (derived) @ 2.41
18 53.6% Estonian (derived) + 46.4% Slovenian (derived) @ 2.41
19 83% Polish_V (derived) + 17% German-North (derived) @ 2.44
20 92.2% Belarusian_V (derived) + 7.8% Finnish-South (derived) @ 2.44

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.24
2 North_Sea 21.75
3 Eastern_Euro 21.71
4 Atlantic 13.41
5 West_Med 3.6
6 West_Asian 3.31
7 East_Med 1.56
8 Siberian 0.81
9 Sub-Saharan 0.39
10 Red_Sea 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.29
2 Belorussian 4.52
3 Southwest_Russian 4.94
4 Estonian_Polish 5.41
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.63
6 Russian_Smolensk 6.28
7 Estonian 6.59
8 Polish 6.88
9 Ukrainian 7.21
10 South_Polish 7.82
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.05
12 Kargopol_Russian 9.87
13 Erzya 10.67
14 East_Finnish 13.05
15 Finnish 13.78
16 Croatian 14.07
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.54
18 Moldavian 15.58
19 Hungarian 16.25
20 La_Brana-1 17.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.2% Lithuanian + 33.8% Ukrainian @ 2.57
2 69.8% Lithuanian + 30.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.78
3 83.2% Lithuanian + 16.8% Moldavian @ 2.98
4 56.2% Lithuanian + 43.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.98
5 61.1% Lithuanian + 38.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.05
6 70.8% Lithuanian + 29.2% South_Polish @ 3.09
7 93.9% Lithuanian + 6.1% Tabassaran @ 3.13
8 81.4% Lithuanian + 18.6% East_Finnish @ 3.16
9 84.9% Lithuanian + 15.1% Hungarian @ 3.21
10 94.3% Lithuanian + 5.7% Lezgin @ 3.26
11 89.1% Lithuanian + 10.9% Tatar @ 3.27
12 77.1% Lithuanian + 22.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.28
13 88.7% Lithuanian + 11.3% Serbian @ 3.28
14 78.7% Lithuanian + 21.3% Erzya @ 3.29
15 83% Lithuanian + 17% Finnish @ 3.3
16 94.5% Lithuanian + 5.5% Kumyk @ 3.34
17 94% Lithuanian + 6% Nogay @ 3.37
18 95.3% Lithuanian + 4.7% Ossetian @ 3.4
19 95.5% Lithuanian + 4.5% Armenian @ 3.4
20 91.3% Lithuanian + 8.7% West_German @ 3.4

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.57
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.36
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 28.10
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 20.44
Fennoscandian 12.83
French 6.84
Iberian 1.66
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.76
North_Caucasian 1.11
North_Sea 7.85
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.45
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

[korvin]

2 Ravnur

По К-36 получаетесь просто архетипичным беларусом.

[Ravnur]

На гедматче появились два новых калькулятора от Вадима Веренича: K16 и K11:
В оракуле последнего используются древние популяции. Пример результатов:

 

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):
 

# Population Percent

1 NorthEastEuropean 35.83

2 Steppe 21.95

3 Neolithic 20.82

4 Caucasian 20.76

 

Finished reading population data. 517 populations found.
16 components mode.

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Belarusian_Belarus @ 2.835584
2 Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 3.947491
3 Pole_Poland @ 3.947743
4 Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest @ 4.231546
5 Russians-West_WestRussian @ 4.306303
6 Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 4.958368
7 Russian_Tver @ 5.128456
8 Russian_CentralRussia @ 5.188455
9 Ukrainians_north_NorthUkraine @ 5.784337
10 Cossack_Kuban @ 5.811134
11 Belarusian_Zhytkavichy_Homel @ 5.836905
12 Latvian_Latvia @ 5.936258
13 Pole_WestPoland @ 6.176238
14 Russian_SouthRussia @ 6.232655
15 Estonian_Estonia @ 6.241616
16 Ukrainian_Ukraine @ 6.326737
17 Belarusian_West_WestBelarus @ 6.451575
18 Latvian_Dobele_Dobele @ 6.565195
19 Belarusian_East_EastBelarus @ 6.576554
20 Latvian_Cesis_Cesis @ 6.912871

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_Belarus +50% Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.735265

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belarusian_Belarus +25% Belarusian_Belarus +25% Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.578986

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.578986
2 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.657087
3 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.671598
4 Belarusian_Belarus + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_EastPoland @ 2.690586
5 Dutch_Netherlands + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.708987
6 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.735265
7 Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_EastPoland + Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.736668
8 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_Poland @ 2.741397
9 Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_Poland @ 2.744035
10 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.762419
11 Belarusian_Belarus + Latvian_Cesis_Cesis + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_EastPoland @ 2.762952
12 Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_EastPoland @ 2.776763
13 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Kobryn_Brest + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_Poland @ 2.793487
14 Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_Poland + Pole_EastPoland @ 2.807082
15 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.809897
16 Belarusian_Belarus + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_EastPoland + Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.810338
17 Belarusian_Belarus + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_WestPoland @ 2.811283
18 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.811285
19 Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Belarusian_Belarus + Latvian_Dobele_Dobele @ 2.811643
20 Dutch_Netherlands + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.813215

[Ravnur]

MDLP K11 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 46.41
2 EHG 27.31
3 Neolithic 24.38
4 Iran-Mesolithic 1.23

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Unetice_EBA @ 4.183610
2 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 5.793828
3 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 6.445250
4 Nordic_LN @ 6.940711
5 Nordic_IA @ 7.505174
6 British_AngloSaxon @ 7.936059
7 Nordic_LBA @ 8.026854
8 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 8.226199
9 Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 8.614282
10 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 8.731385
11 Nordic_MN_B @ 8.805660
12 Halberstadt_LBA @ 10.022402
13 Nordic_BA @ 10.314488
14 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 10.349567
15 Nordic_BA @ 10.962609
16 Sintashta_MBA @ 11.092892
17 Alberstedt_LN @ 11.386650
18 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 11.651769
19 British_IronAge @ 12.154502
20 Irish_BA @ 12.413462

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British_AngloSaxon +50% Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.320986


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bell_Beaker +25% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN +25% Scandinavian_NH @ 1.217216


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + Scandinavian_NH @ 1.217216
2 Nordic_BattleAxe + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Scandinavian_NH @ 1.363633
3 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Scandinavian_NH @ 1.864699
4 Hungary_BA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 1.952597
5 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Nordic_LN + Scandinavian_NH @ 1.957885
6 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Irish_BA + Scandinavian_NH @ 2.000669
7 British_AngloSaxon + Nordic_BA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.071173
8 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Corded_Ware_Germany + LesCloseaux13_Mesolithic @ 2.117642
9 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + LesCloseaux13_Mesolithic + Srubnaya_LBA @ 2.130910
10 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Scandinavian_NH @ 2.232363
11 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + LesCloseaux13_Mesolithic + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.309154
12 British_AngloSaxon + British_AngloSaxon + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.320986
13 Bell_Beaker_Czech + Nordic_BA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.323920
14 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Nordic_MN_B + Scandinavian_NH @ 2.368527
15 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Scandinavian_NH + Unetice_EBA @ 2.395900
16 Nordic_BA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Unetice_EBA @ 2.404346
17 Halberstadt_LBA + Nordic_BA + Poltavka_MBA_outlier + Poltavka_MBA_outlier @ 2.425573
18 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + British_IronAge + Scandinavian_MHG @ 2.455870
19 Alberstedt_LN + Bell_Beaker + Karsdorf_LN + LesCloseaux13_Mesolithic @ 2.461726
20 Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker + Bell_Beaker_Germany + Scandinavian_MHG @ 2.465234

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# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 33.13
2 Steppe 23.45
3 Neolithic 20.38
4 Caucasian 19.89
5 Siberian 1.79
6 Indian 1.36


Finished reading population data. 516 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Belarusian @ 3.325848
2 Belarusian @ 3.850415
3 Pole @ 4.218001
4 Cossack @ 4.674212
5 Russian @ 4.902424
6 Russian @ 4.925750
7 Ukrainians_north @ 5.099353
8 Ukrainians_east @ 5.487695
9 Pole @ 5.758692
10 Russian @ 5.882468
11 Russians-West @ 5.963544
12 Ukrainian @ 5.968217
13 Russian @ 6.221439
14 Pole @ 6.311430
15 Belarusian_East @ 6.325711
16 Belarusian @ 6.372630
17 Lithuanian @ 6.383108
18 Pole @ 6.407392
19 Russian_cossack @ 6.485281
20 Ingrians @ 6.683813

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch +50% Latvian_Cesis @ 3.238916


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Pole +25% Russians-West +25% Scottish @ 2.783678


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Latvian_Cesis + Pole + Pole + Scottish @ 2.615683
2 Belarusian + Latvian_Cesis + Pole + Scottish @ 2.693377
3 Belarusian + Pole + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.743143
4 Pole + Russians-West + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.745848
5 Belarusian + Russians-West + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.780594
6 Pole + Pole + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.783678
7 Belarusian + Russians-West + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.787092
8 Latvian_Cesis + Pole + Russian + Scottish @ 2.809779
9 Belarusian + Belarusian + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.821901
10 Belarusian + Russian + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.836402
11 Latvian_Cesis + Pole + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.858702
12 Latvian_Cesis + Orcadian + Pole + Pole @ 2.860131
13 Belarusian + Latvian_Cesis + Pole + Scottish @ 2.871842
14 Pole + Russian + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.873494
15 Belarusian + Pole + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.876476
16 Belarusian + Belarusian + Latvian_Cesis + Scottish @ 2.885612
17 Belarusian + Latvian_Cesis + Russian + Scottish @ 2.888137
18 Latvian_Cesis + Pole + Russian + Scottish @ 2.895872
19 Latvian_Cesis + Pole + Russians-West + Scottish @ 2.898727
20 Belarusian + Irish + Latvian_Cesis + Pole @ 2.907197

[roaring]

На гедматче появились два новых калькулятора от Вадима Веренича: K16 и K11:
В оракуле последнего используются древние популяции. Пример результатов:

У вас корни откуда-то из литовского пограничья?

[smolinsky]

На гедматче появились два новых калькулятора от Вадима Веренича: K16 и K11:

Как запустить калькулятор?
1.Заходим в Admixture/Oracle with Population Search;
Так?
А дальше какой конкретно выбирать? Ибо калькуляторов тут в ассортименте K-16 и K-11.
И почему-то ни в одном не работает Oracle 4.

Сообщение изменено: smolinsky, 15 Февраль 2017 - 09:45.

[roaring]

Как запустить калькулятор?
1.Заходим в Admixture/Oracle with Population Search;
Так?
А дальше какой конкретно выбирать? Ибо калькуляторов тут в ассортименте K-16 и K-11.
И почему-то ни в одном не работает Oracle 4.

Gedmatch-Admixture (heritage)-MDLP далее выбираете либо k11 либо 16

[Ravnur]

У вас корни откуда-то из литовского пограничья?

Смотря что считать пограничьем. Преимущественно Минская область + Гродненская. Достоверно литовцев генеалогически пока не выявлено.

[roaring]

Смотря что считать пограничьем. Преимущественно Минская область + Гродненская. Достоверно литовцев генеалогически пока не выявлено.

Спасибо, вы слегка более северным получаетесь, чем "средний Белорус" что у вас по Eurogenes K7, если не секрет?