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[киевлянин]

No but her skull is brachycephalic or mesocephalic.

Hmm... we have to choose among these two variations:)

East Alpinid are like between Alpinid and Baltid.

they are "true Alpinids", but with North-European influence. For example, hair colour is prodominantly light brown.

What confused me is that real Alpinid and Baltid are stocky (bodytype)

I know that they are disposed for excess weight. However, my bodytype is muscular and athletic, at least now:)
My height is in the middle (179) and Alpinids are 178 and higher as a rule. Middle height is within 178-180.

What is West Baltid ?

https://www.balto-sl...?showtopic=4952

Сообщение изменено: киевлянин, 05 Декабрь 2010 - 20:33.

[Slaska]

I wonder why i looks more Pontid than rest of my family.

[Slaska]

Hmm... we have to choose among these two variations:)

They are basically same but Baltid often are mesocephalic.

they are "true Alpinids", but with North-European influence. For example, hair colour is prodominantly light brown.

Baltids are on the whole rather light-pigmented. The hair, which is straight in form, ranges in color from ash-blond to dark brown. Light eyes are quite common, but dark-mixed varieties prevail.

I know that they are disposed for excess weight. However, my bodytype is muscular and athletic, at least now:)
My height is in the middle (179) and Alpinids are 178 and higher as a rule. Middle height is within 178-180.

If that the case, then it is CM, not Alpinid or Baltid. They are stocky. My mum is actually skinny.

https://www.balto-sl...?showtopic=4952

So, i guess her Baltid part is West Baltid, right ? Dont you think her Baltid part is proper Baltid ?

[Slaska]

Dont you think my mother has East Baltid influence because of her eye region ? Her eye is kinda slanted.

[киевлянин]

They are basically same but Baltid often are mesocephalic.

Baltids are brachicefalic
https://www.balto-sl...?showtopic=4922

The hair, which is straight in form, ranges in color from ash-blond to dark brown.Light eyes are quite common, but dark-mixed varieties prevail.

I don't know where you have taken such info from, but the darkest hair of Baltids is dark blond/blond-brown. The light brown is typical for Gorids and is the darkest from the range of light hair.

but dark-mixed varieties prevail.

Hazel and green eyes are typical for Gorids. Baltids have only light eyes: grey, blue, grey-blue.

If that the case, then it is CM, not Alpinid or Baltid.

I'm typical gorid. In what sense have you used "CM"? Cro Magnon types include their descendants - Baltids and Aplinids, while Meds and Nordics are so called "Aurignacoids".

Dont you think my mother has East Baltid influence because of her eye region ?

No, because of her morphology
https://www.balto-sl...?showtopic=4952

2. Лицевой индекс: мезопросопия (кроме верхних значений), юрипросопия, лицо квадратно-прямоугольной формы
с большими лицевыми диаметрами.
13. Челюсть: среднеширокая , широкая, угловатая, средней высоты.

Сообщение изменено: киевлянин, 06 Декабрь 2010 - 11:10.

[Slaska]

I don't know where you have taken such info from, but the darkest hair of Baltids is dark blond/blond-brown. The light brown is typical for Gorids and is the darkest from the range of light hair.

I think you're right but some proper Baltid have also brown hair. Look, the point is that it's not about hair colour or whatsoever but facial features.

Baltid proper :

Hazel and green eyes are typical for Gorids. Baltids have only light eyes: grey, blue, grey-blue.

Oh, i didn't know that. I suppose you've seen a picture of my sister, brother and cousin and they all have blue eye. Does it mean they have Baltid admixture ?

I'm typical gorid. In what sense have you used "CM"? Cro Magnon types include their descendants - Baltids and Aplinids, while Meds and Nordics are so called "Aurignacoids".

Unreduced CM are quite robust while Reduced CM (Alpinid) are stocky. My mother is NOT that robust or stocky.


Speaking of Gorid (East Alpinid), do you think they are good example of East Alpinid type ?

[киевлянин]

Baltid proper

They represent mixed Baltid/Pontid type, typical for Russia (Ryazan etc.)

Unreduced CM are quite robust while Reduced CM (Alpinid) are stocky. My mother is NOT that robust or stocky.
Alpinid

https://www.balto-sl...?showtopic=5041
22. Рост: средний.
23. Телосложение: мужчин по Бунаку- мускульный, брюшной типы и сочетанные варианты, женщин по Галанту- мезопластический и пикнический типы.

Gorid
https://www.balto-sl...?showtopic=5063
22. Рост: средний , высокий.
23. Телосложение: мужчин по Бунаку- мускульный, брюшной типы и их сочетанные варианты, женщин по Галанту- субатлетический, мезопластический и пикнический типы.

Speaking of Gorid (East Alpinid), do you think they are good example of East Alpinid type ?

I'm not sure, we have to look at profiles...
the first one looks like mix of another type...

Сообщение изменено: киевлянин, 06 Декабрь 2010 - 13:58.

[Slaska]

They represent mixed Baltid/Pontid type, typical for Russia (Ryazan etc.)

The first one seem like between East Alpinid and Baltid.
The second one seem like Baltid with Nordid influence.
The third one seem like a textbook Baltid and yet he have brown hair.

Gorid
https://www.balto-sl...?showtopic=5063
22. Рост: средний , высокий.
23. Телосложение: мужчин по Бунаку- мускульный, брюшной типы и их сочетанные варианты, женщин по Галанту- субатлетический, мезопластический и пикнический типы.

I dont understand a word of this because it's in Russian.

I'm not sure, we have to look at profiles...
the first one looks like mix of another type...

Like what ? I think she's pretty textbook of Gorid type..


Easr Alpinid are not basically pure type because they all have other influence.

Eastalpinids seem to have, to me, not just a Baltised tendency, but even more so Atlanto-Nordid and especially Dinarid tendencies.

[киевлянин]

The third one seem like a textbook Baltid and yet he have brown hair.

Ok, why not textbook Alpinid?

I dont understand a word of this because it's in Russian.

muscular bodytype is also typical for men and mesoplastic - for women.

Like what ? I think she's pretty textbook of Gorid type..

may be whatever you want: Nordid + ... etc.
basically we have to classify under 2 fotoes - profile is obligatory...

Easr Alpinid are not basically pure type because they all have other influence.

Speaking about -oids, not -ids we always speak on non-pure types. Majority of people, nearly 90% represent close variation to one or another type, there mixes or not any type at all.

[Slaska]

Ok, why not textbook Alpinid?

He looks Northern European, so i go with Baltid. It's like Med and Nordid are similiar but Nordid tend to looks more Northern and Med tend to looks more Southern.

muscular bodytype is also typical for men and mesoplastic - for women.

Mesoplastic = leptosome ?

may be whatever you want: Nordid + ... etc.
basically we have to classify under 2 fotoes - profile is obligatory...

I suppose you're right and i dont have a profile picture of them. They have round face, light brown hair, green eye, round tip nose, steep forehead which is typical for Gorid. By looking at them, you know they have round skulled because they have round face.

[киевлянин]

He looks Northern European

As for me, he looks like typical Middle European...

[Slaska]

As for me, he looks like typical Middle European...

You mean Central European ? Yeah, he does actually. Thank you and everyone for classifcation and information about racial type. You' all have been help!

[киевлянин]

господа, что скажете по поводу лептопросопии у типируемой (мамы Slaska) ? Как Вы пролагаете, очевидно ли, что это свидетельство понтоидного компонента или возможен вариант нордоидного???

Сообщение изменено: киевлянин, 07 Декабрь 2010 - 10:23.

[Slaska]

господа, что скажете по поводу лептопросопии у типируемой (мамы Slaska) ? Как Вы пролагаете, очевидно ли, что это свидетельство понтоидного компонента или возможен вариант нордоидного???

Are you talking to me or someone ?

[киевлянин]

to everyone:)
I'm trying to gather councilium)))

[Slaska]

to everyone:)
I'm trying to gather councilium)))

Yeah, it would be good.

[Slaska]

господа, что скажете по поводу лептопросопии у типируемой (мамы Slaska) ? Как Вы пролагаете, очевидно ли, что это свидетельство понтоидного компонента или возможен вариант нордоидного???

[Slaska]

[Quote name = 'Slaska' date = '7 .12.2010, 18:17 'post = '85115']
Gentlemen, what about leptoprosopii have tipiruemoy (mom Slaska)? How do you paves, evident that this testimony pontoidnogo component or the variant nordoidnogo??
[/ Quote]
кто-нибудь?

[Slaska]

господа, что скажете по поводу лептопросопии у типируемой (мамы Slaska) ? Как Вы пролагаете, очевидно ли, что это свидетельство понтоидного компонента или возможен вариант нордоидного???

I'd love to hear your answer, folks.

[Slaska]

[quote name='Slaska' date='8.12.2010, 14:49' post='85240']


Я хотел бы услышать ваш ответ, люди.

[ВИТ]

По моим измерениям с фото мамы Slaska лицевой индекс у нее менее 85. Это диапазон юрипросопии.
О летопросопии речь не идет.

[Slaska]

[Quote name = 'VIT' date = '8 .12.2010, 16:29 'post = '85251']
According to my measurements with photos mom Slaska facial index it less than 85. This range yuriprosopii.
About letoprosopii are not talking.
[/ Quote]
Так, Она горид, не балтид-понтид ?
Моя мама на самом деле довольно тонкий.

[киевлянин]

по моим измерениям цифра вышла за 90... надеюсь, я ошибся, так как объяснить это трудно...
если и была ошибка, то при подсчете полной лицевой высоты (верхняя точка отсчета).

[Slaska]

According to my measurements of the figure went up to 90 ... I hope I'm wrong, because it's hard to explain ...
If there was a mistake, when calculating the total face height (the upper reference point).

All i know is that she has short round broad face.

[ВИТ]

при подсчете полной лицевой высоты (верхняя точка отсчета).

В расчете используется морфологическая высота лица .

[киевлянин]

здесь верхняя точка отсчета указана верно:
http://www.freewebs....hro/measure.htm
?

[Slaska]

Thank you

[ВИТ]

"от точки Насион до низшей точки подбородка (Гнатион)"

[ВИТ]

Так, Она горид, не балтид-понтид ?
Моя мама на самом деле довольно тонкий.

Балтид+понтид.

[Slaska]

Балтид+понтид.

в горид ?